Commission and clawback spreadsheets and AI data leakage: what a broker’s revenue sheet gives away in ChatGPT or Claude.
The commission and clawback spreadsheet is how a brokerage tracks what it is owed: upfront commission by loan, trail by month, the date each clawback period ends and the invoices when a client refinances away. It lists every client with a loan amount and a lender, so it is the brokerage’s book of business and its commercial terms in one file. Brokers upload it to ChatGPT or Claude to reconcile payments and to forecast trail. This page marks every cell in a routine commission and clawback sheet that the National Consumer Credit Protection Act, its Regulations and the Privacy Act bear on, and shows how the same sheet is handled on Ermos inside the brokerage.
The commission and clawback spreadsheet
Maintained monthly from lender and aggregator remuneration statements. Regulation 28VG of the National Consumer Credit Protection Regulations sets the clawback requirements a benefit with a repayment obligation must meet to fall within regulation 28VB(3), so that it is not conflicted remuneration: the repayment obligation lasts no more than two years, requires no more than the benefit and does not make the consumer liable.
| A | B | C | D | E | F | G | H | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Client | Lender | Loan ($) | Settled | Upfront | Trail p.a. | Clawback to | Status |
| 2 | Petrov, A1 | Orrin Building Society2 | 612,0003 | 14 Aug 2026 | 0.60% = 3,6724 | 0.15% = 9185 | 14 Aug 2027 (12 mo)6 | Settled |
| 3 | Wang, L & H | Southgate Bank | 745,000 | 9 Jun 2026 | 0.65% = 4,843 | 0.15% = 1,118 | 9 Jun 2028 | Settled |
| 4 | Brennan, K | Tamarind Bank | 480,000 | 22 Sep 2026 | 0.70% = 3,360 | 0.20% = 960 | 22 Sep 2028 | Settled |
| 5 | Adeyemi, T & F | Southgate Bank | 1,020,000 | 30 Jul 2026 | 0.65% = 6,630 | 0.15% = 1,530 | 30 Jul 2028 | Settled |
| 6 | Castellano, M | Orrin Building Society | 390,000 | 3 Mar 2026 | 0.60% = 2,340 | 0.15% = 585 | 3 Mar 2027 (12 mo) | Settled |
| 7 | Hollis, P7 | Southgate Bank | 520,000 | 11 Mar 2026 | 0.65% = 3,380 | Ended | 11 Mar 2028 | Refinanced out 29 Sep 2026; clawback 3,3807 |
| 8 | Whitlock, D & S8 | Southgate Bank | 868,000 | Pre-approved | 0.65% = 5,642 | 0.15% = 1,302 | Settlement + 24 mo | Settlement expected Dec 2026 |
| 9 | Total before clawback | 4,635,000 | 29,867 | 6,413 | Trail income forecast 6,413 a year9 | |||
| 10 | Rule | Clawback to = EDATE(settled, months); months set by each lender agreement and never more than 2410 |
An invented commission and clawback sheet. The clients, lenders and rates are invented. Hover or tap any highlighted cell for the analysis; the full list is below.
What leaves the brokerage
- 1Client names
Every client with a loan, in one column. The brokerage’s book of business, and personal information about each person in it. Privacy Act guide.
Frontier Models (ChatGPT, Claude) Your whole client list transmitted, generally offshore on personal plans Ermos Edge Stays on your instance in Australia; leaves only inside a permitted excerpt, per question, to the named provider Ermos Dominion Stays on the unit in your office - 2Lenders by client
Which bank holds which client’s loan. A map of each household’s credit relationships. Privacy Act guide.
Frontier Models (ChatGPT, Claude) Each client’s lender transmitted Ermos Edge Stays on your instance in Australia; leaves only inside a permitted excerpt, per question, to the named provider Ermos Dominion Stays on the unit in your office - 3Loan amounts
What each client borrowed. Financial information about each person on the list. Privacy Act guide.
Frontier Models (ChatGPT, Claude) Each client’s loan amount transmitted Ermos Edge Stays on your instance in Australia; leaves only inside a permitted excerpt, per question, to the named provider Ermos Dominion Stays on the unit in your office - 4Upfront commission rates
What each lender pays the brokerage. Commercial terms, which the brokerage may hold under confidentiality in its aggregator or lender agreements; check yours. Section 113 requires the credit guide to give a reasonable estimate of the amounts or range of indirect remuneration and the method for working them out.
Frontier Models (ChatGPT, Claude) Your commission terms transmitted Ermos Edge Stays on your instance; check what your lender and aggregator agreements say about commercial terms Ermos Dominion Stays on the unit in your office - 5Trail commission
Ongoing payments by loan. Regulation 28VC’s drawdown cap applies to benefits given in the first year after drawdown, so trail paid after that year is outside the cap, though still subject to the other conditions in regulation 28VB(3).
Frontier Models (ChatGPT, Claude) Your trail income transmitted Ermos Edge Stays on your instance in Australia; leaves only inside a permitted excerpt, per question, to the named provider Ermos Dominion Stays on the unit in your office - 6Clawback dates
When a lender can recover commission if a client leaves or repays early. Where a benefit carries a repayment obligation, regulation 28VG limits it to two years from first drawdown, as one of the conditions in regulation 28VB(3) for the benefit not to count as conflicted remuneration under the ban in section 158NB.
Frontier Models (ChatGPT, Claude) Your clawback exposure transmitted Ermos Edge Stays on your instance in Australia; leaves only inside a permitted excerpt, per question, to the named provider Ermos Dominion Stays on the unit in your office - 7A client who refinanced away, and the clawback invoice
A named client who left within the clawback period and the amount recovered, limited by regulation 28VG to no more than the benefit paid. Reveals that a client refinanced elsewhere. Privacy Act guide.
Frontier Models (ChatGPT, Claude) A client who left, and what you recovered, transmitted Ermos Edge Stays on your instance in Australia; leaves only inside a permitted excerpt, per question, to the named provider Ermos Dominion Stays on the unit in your office - 8A live deal and its expected settlement
A pre-approved client with an expected settlement month and the commission it will earn. A deal in progress. Privacy Act guide.
Frontier Models (ChatGPT, Claude) A live deal transmitted Ermos Edge Stays on your instance in Australia; leaves only inside a permitted excerpt, per question, to the named provider Ermos Dominion Stays on the unit in your office - 9Totals and the forecast
The brokerage’s expected upfront and trail revenue. Commercial information, and a number that must be reconciled to lender statements by a person.
Frontier Models (ChatGPT, Claude) Your forecast revenue transmitted Ermos Edge Stays on your instance; the totals must be reconciled to lender statements by a person Ermos Dominion Stays on the unit; the totals must be reconciled to lender statements by a person - 10The rule behind the dates
A date formula and a policy statement. No client data.
Frontier Models (ChatGPT, Claude) A date formula with no client data; low exposure Ermos Edge Nothing to keep in Ermos Dominion Nothing to keep in
What happens in Frontier Models (ChatGPT, Claude)
- The whole document is transmitted to the provider’s servers. On personal plans the user cannot choose where it is stored or processed, and for the major providers that has generally meant outside Australia, under that country’s legal process. Some business plans offer storage in Australia, but the provider still receives the content.
- On consumer tiers, prompts can be retained and used to train future models.
- The provider’s staff and systems can reach the content under the provider’s own policies.
- Once sent, the brokerage no longer controls it. Retention and deletion happen on the provider’s terms.
The same document on Ermos
Ermos Dominion
The document is drafted on a unit in your office, from your own templates and the client file. Every marked item stays on the unit, which keeps working with the internet switched off. Nothing in it is transmitted to an AI provider, so there is no disclosure to analyse: the confidentiality work is the same as for your file server.
Ermos Edge
Your documents, the index and your access boundaries stay on your own instance in an Australian data centre. When a staff member asks for this draft, only their question and the excerpts they are permitted to see go to a named Australian provider, who is contractually barred from keeping the content or training any model on it. Nothing is processed outside Australia.
| Frontier Models (ChatGPT, Claude) | Ermos Edge | Ermos Dominion | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Where the document is processed | Provider servers, generally offshore on personal plans | Your instance in an Australian data centre; answers generated in Australia | The unit in your office |
| Who can read it | Provider staff and systems, under policy | Your staff, within the boundaries you set. The named Australian provider processes only permitted excerpts, under contract, and keeps nothing | Your staff only |
| Is it kept | On the provider’s terms | Kept on your instance; the provider is barred from retaining it | Stays on the unit |
| Can it train a model | On consumer tiers, yes | No, by contract | Only your own unit learns from it, on your hardware |
Part of AI data leakage in mortgage brokerages.
Common questions
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