Buyer and seller chat messages and AI data leakage: what a settlement group chat gives away in ChatGPT or Claude.
Agents set up group chats between buyer and vendor to sort keys, inspections and moving dates, and clients forward them to their conveyancer when something needs advice. A conveyancer then pastes the thread into ChatGPT or Claude to summarise it or draft a reply. The chat is informal, so it holds what no formal document would: an alarm code, a bereavement, a pregnancy, the vendor’s whereabouts, the payout figure and a late request to send the proceeds to another account. This page marks every line in one such chat that bears on Scamwatch advice, NSW record keeping and the Privacy Act, and shows how the thread is handled on Ermos.
The buyer and seller chat messages
Forwarded to the practice by a client in the weeks before settlement, when a message in the agent’s group chat needs advice or has to go on the file.
Group chat: Lyrebird Pde settlement
Members: Joel Kessler, Dennis Marlowe1, Tessa Lindqvist, Fernhill Property Group9 · Forwarded to the practice by Joel on Thursday 29 October 2026
Mon 26 Oct, 4.12pm Tessa: Hi Dennis and Joel, I have started this chat so we can sort keys and the inspection without phone tag.
Mon 26 Oct, 4.15pm Dennis: Thanks Tessa. I am at my daughter’s in Bendigo until the 14th, back in Sydney from the 15th to pack. It is the first time I have been away from the unit since Ruth died.3
Mon 26 Oct, 4.31pm Joel: Hi Dennis. Could we do the pre-settlement inspection on Wednesday 18 November at 5.30pm?4 Mira is due in April, so we want to measure the second bedroom for the cot.5
Mon 26 Oct, 4.40pm Dennis: Fine by me. The alarm code is 4471 and the spare key is with Tessa.2
Wed 28 Oct, 7.40pm Dennis: Joel, can the money from the sale go to Karen’s account instead of mine? I will send you her details. It is easier while I am away.7
Wed 28 Oct, 7.44pm Joel: I would have to ask our conveyancer. She says our funds are lined up with Westpac and we settle on Friday 20 November at 2pm.8
Wed 28 Oct, 7.52pm Dennis: Righto. My solicitor says the bank payout is about $412,0006 and the rest is mine.
Wed 28 Oct, 7.55pm Tessa: Dennis, any change of account has to come through Ines and nowhere else.
An invented chat between invented people. The alarm code is made up. Hover or tap any highlighted line for the analysis; the full list is below.
What leaves the practice
- 1The buyer and the vendor
Two named people, one of whom is not the practice’s client. Personal information about both, in a thread the vendor has not agreed to see processed. Privacy Act guide.
Frontier Models (ChatGPT, Claude) Two names transmitted, one of them a stranger to the practice Ermos Edge Stays on your instance in Australia; leaves only inside a permitted excerpt, per question, to the named provider Ermos Dominion Stays on the unit in your office - 2The alarm code and key location
A way into a property, with a note of where the spare key is. Not personal information on its own, but with the address in the thread it is a security credential.
Frontier Models (ChatGPT, Claude) A property security credential transmitted Ermos Edge Stays on your instance in Australia; leaves only inside a permitted excerpt, per question, to the named provider Ermos Dominion Stays on the unit in your office - 3The vendor’s bereavement and whereabouts
A recent death, a daughter in another town and the dates the unit is empty. Personal information about a third party that has nothing to do with the advice the client wants. Privacy Act guide.
Frontier Models (ChatGPT, Claude) A third party’s bereavement and absence transmitted Ermos Edge Stays on your instance in Australia; leaves only inside a permitted excerpt, per question, to the named provider Ermos Dominion Stays on the unit in your office - 4The inspection time
When the buyers will be in the unit. A routine time that the agent already knows, but combined with the address and the dates it shows when the property is occupied.
Frontier Models (ChatGPT, Claude) A viewing time the agent already knows; sending it alone exposes little, but it sits beside the address Ermos Edge Stays on your instance in Australia; leaves only inside a permitted excerpt, per question, to the named provider Ermos Dominion Stays on the unit in your office - 5A pregnancy and a due month
Health information about a named client. Health information is sensitive information under the Privacy Act, which has stricter rules for its collection, use and disclosure. Patient data guide.
Frontier Models (ChatGPT, Claude) Sensitive health information transmitted; on consumer tiers it can train future models Ermos Edge Leaves inside a permitted excerpt only when the question needs the detail Ermos Dominion Stays on the unit in your office - 6The payout figure
The vendor’s own estimate of what he owes the bank. Financial information about a third party. Privacy Act guide.
Frontier Models (ChatGPT, Claude) A third party’s finances transmitted Ermos Edge Stays on your instance in Australia; leaves only inside a permitted excerpt, per question, to the named provider Ermos Dominion Stays on the unit in your office - 7The request to redirect the proceeds
A vendor asking for money to go to another person’s account. Scamwatch lists payee details that change without notice as a warning sign of payment redirection, and a message like this is both a genuine query and a template for a fraudulent one.
Frontier Models (ChatGPT, Claude) The redirection request transmitted Ermos Edge The call-back to the vendor’s solicitor is a human step; Ermos only keeps the thread inside Ermos Dominion The call-back to the vendor’s solicitor is a human step; Ermos only keeps the thread inside - 8The buyers’ funding and settlement time
That the buyers’ funds are arranged with a named bank and when settlement happens. The two facts a fraudster needs to time a message. Privacy Act guide.
Frontier Models (ChatGPT, Claude) The funding and settlement time transmitted Ermos Edge Stays on your instance in Australia; leaves only inside a permitted excerpt, per question, to the named provider Ermos Dominion Stays on the unit in your office - 9The agent and the agency
A named agent at a named agency who set up the chat. Her name is on the listing, so it is not secret, but a fraudster could write as her.
Frontier Models (ChatGPT, Claude) The agent is named on the listing; the thread is not public, so the answer depends on setting Ermos Edge Stays on your instance in Australia; leaves only inside a permitted excerpt, per question, to the named provider Ermos Dominion Stays on the unit in your office
What happens in Frontier Models (ChatGPT, Claude)
- The whole document is transmitted to the provider’s servers. On personal plans the user cannot choose where it is stored or processed, and for the major providers that has generally meant outside Australia, under that country’s legal process. Some business plans offer storage in Australia, but the provider still receives the content.
- On consumer tiers, prompts can be retained and used to train future models.
- The provider’s staff and systems can reach the content under the provider’s own policies.
- Once sent, the practice no longer controls it. Retention and deletion happen on the provider’s terms.
The same document on Ermos
Ermos Dominion
The document is drafted on a unit in your office, from your own templates and the matter file. Every marked item stays on the unit, which keeps working with the internet switched off. Nothing in it is transmitted to an AI provider, so there is no disclosure to analyse: the confidentiality work is the same as for your file server.
Ermos Edge
Your documents, the index and your access boundaries stay on your own instance in an Australian data centre. When a staff member asks for this draft, only their question and the excerpts they are permitted to see go to a named Australian provider, who is contractually barred from keeping the content or training any model on it. Nothing is processed outside Australia.
| Frontier Models (ChatGPT, Claude) | Ermos Edge | Ermos Dominion | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Where the document is processed | Provider servers, generally offshore on personal plans | Your instance in an Australian data centre; answers generated in Australia | The unit in your office |
| Who can read it | Provider staff and systems, under policy | Your staff, within the boundaries you set. The named Australian provider processes only permitted excerpts, under contract, and keeps nothing | Your staff only |
| Is it kept | On the provider’s terms | Kept on your instance; the provider is barred from retaining it | Stays on the unit |
| Can it train a model | On consumer tiers, yes | No, by contract | Only your own unit learns from it, on your hardware |
Part of AI data leakage in conveyancing practices.
Common questions
Do ChatGPT and Claude use the information in buyer and seller chat messages?
Can we use ChatGPT or Claude for buyer and seller chat messages if we remove the names?
Does deleting the chat remove buyer and seller chat messages from ChatGPT or Claude?
How can a conveyancing practice use AI for buyer and seller chat messages without sending them to ChatGPT or Claude?
How do scammers use a settlement conversation?
Does a forwarded chat become part of the matter file?
Does the Privacy Act cover details about the other party?
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